138 Threads found on edaboard.com: Opamp Biasing
To measure a high current(up to 30A, typically 15-20A.) i used a resistor based current measurement. I connected the sensing resistor to the low side and amplified(x10) the voltage on the resistor via an opamp (LM358N). Then i applied some tests and saw that, output voltage of the opamp is not directly proportional to the current. What may be the p
Robotics and Automatics Forum :: 12.11.2004 22:38 :: seyyah :: Replies: 14 :: Views: 2137
I think the first can get the higher gain since the cascode output, the second is not easy to increase the gain since the gain mainly acquire from the output stage. But the first output swing is small, but i think it meet our application in bandgap error opamp.
The second reason is the bandgap Vbe is low, so it need a Pmos input.
Analog Circuit Design :: 11.01.2005 09:51 :: rambus_ddr :: Replies: 8 :: Views: 1022
I think the structure in opamp will be useful.
Analog Circuit Design :: 31.01.2005 07:42 :: cetc1525 :: Replies: 5 :: Views: 641
i'm analyzing 741 Op Amp. i'm having problem at the offset voltage.
my offset voltage is quite large 16mV as compared to the datasheet, it should be max=6mV.
i already check the matching currents and they match.
what are other possibilities that contributes to my large offset value?
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 03.02.2005 22:44 :: lucky8 :: Replies: 5 :: Views: 977
Suppose in your second stage you have NMOS common-source amp and PMOS current source load. Then your second stage biasing current is mainly controlled by the PMOS current source, and actually Vgs of the NMOS is determined by this current. However if the opamp is used as a feedback amplifier, the common-mode feedback will automatically adjust the Vg
Analog Circuit Design :: 11.02.2005 00:56 :: terryssw :: Replies: 5 :: Views: 1039
u can refer to a book Analog Integrated Circuit Design by Daved Johns & Ken Martin. In chapter 5 & 6 have depth explaination on biasing circuit for opamp.
one of the circuit i have posted at
Analog Circuit Design :: 18.02.2005 00:33 :: richloo :: Replies: 1 :: Views: 1110
An ideal symmetric opamp surpress the common mode noise components from the bias. If the opamp is used in circuits which have to reject some big signals the common mode noises get modulated by the big signal and distort the wanted small signal. So in addition to AC small signal noise optimisation run a period noise analysis with a blocking signal.
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 28.02.2005 04:31 :: rfsystem :: Replies: 2 :: Views: 774
My question is that whether the input common-mode voltage has to be equal (or intend to set to be equal) to the output common-mode voltage of opamp for the general opamp design?
Thank you very much.
you'd better use the same value for the input and output, if you want to make multi-stage system with
Analog Circuit Design :: 10.03.2005 17:13 :: yiyin :: Replies: 6 :: Views: 2107
It's difficult to control the drain voltage in open loop configuration. Without negative feedback, the gain of the opamp will be so high that the transistors can be easily driven out of saturation region, making the drain voltage difficult to be controlled. You can use a common mode feedback circuit to stabilise the drain voltage. You can try con
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 24.06.2005 09:37 :: yeechyan :: Replies: 3 :: Views: 873
Importantly, is the Y-axis right? I mean you have a Y axis which calls of degrees. I do not think so. I do not think that there is an opamp which will cause a 5 degree phase shift.
Secondly, have you put the options as .OPTIONS UNWRAP for the phase plot? If you have done so, then the cause is due to two RHP zeroes and not multiple poles. The pr
Analog Circuit Design :: 27.07.2005 02:41 :: Vamsi Mocherla :: Replies: 8 :: Views: 825
The first method is to use cascode transistors instead of simple common source amplifier.
Then, you can use Gain-boosting method which is described in almost all CMOS analog circuit design books.
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 04.01.2006 15:42 :: OpAmp :: Replies: 5 :: Views: 1273
Currently im designing an opamp for my design familiriaty. If you noticed from my schematic there are 2 PMOS biasing. For bias1, i believe what i have done is correct that is I biasing them according to W/L ratio. But as for bias2, i believe that biasing shouldn't be like that as the VGS is not same at the two (...)
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 01.02.2006 05:32 :: Anachip :: Replies: 7 :: Views: 1480
everything in saturation?
no, it is not right. Maneatis load should not be all in satiration region.
U may not understand maneatis load's theory.
u need a buffer first to increas the vco swing
and then followed a comparator.
buffer can have the same structure as ur vco cell.
hi actually i used the maneatis delay cell ins
Analog Circuit Design :: 11.04.2006 02:46 :: swicap :: Replies: 7 :: Views: 1675
Normally, the bias circuits must make all the transistors of opamp to work in the saturation region
Analog Circuit Design :: 20.04.2006 22:16 :: pfd001 :: Replies: 6 :: Views: 806
anybady know the function of a capacitance putting in the input satge of a AmOpa? thanks
Analog Circuit Design :: 01.09.2006 12:38 :: mickey0908 :: Replies: 3 :: Views: 408
I had designed an error amplifier for dc biasing purpose. The stability of the design shown in plot (Stb1.jpg) and plot(Stb2.jpg), are in the range of 60-90 degrees in terms of the phase margin. But I had also been informed that the zero and the second pole shouldn't be located nearby each other to avoid roll off. I would appreciate
Analog Circuit Design :: 08.12.2006 01:13 :: hrkhari :: Replies: 0 :: Views: 444
biasing circuit is used widely in analog circuit design to bias circuit in proper operating point. let sat if you design opamp, all the transistors must be biased in saturation mode because in this mode we can get large gain. example of bias circuit is voltage reference circuit, current mirror/sink/source. it depend on your applications. hope my ex
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 15.03.2007 09:46 :: evilguy :: Replies: 8 :: Views: 1087
im a newby...i trying to do a sample and hold ADC using rail to rail opamp.i have finsih up the construction base on one of the sample i found in internet.but there were no calcullation in W/L ratio.
if i want to learn how to calculate there any good reference that anyone can share.
what i doing now with the W/L ratio is just by put a
Analog Circuit Design :: 11.04.2007 04:04 :: maori :: Replies: 1 :: Views: 592
This circuit consists of simple differential opamp and Its Bias Circuit.
What is the role of N4 in Bias Circuit?
Analog Circuit Design :: 25.05.2007 19:15 :: 020170 :: Replies: 19 :: Views: 1682
When simulating opamp, I found that when applying a constant voltage to NBIAS, the gain of the opamp is nearly 50dB, but when self biasing the gain of the opamp boosted to nearly 90db.
Who can explain this problem detailed for me,
Analog Circuit Design :: 15.08.2007 03:53 :: rogerqin :: Replies: 13 :: Views: 1623
Has anyone wrked on the following architecture ? Cud u please tell the design approach for this..And also how to take care of THD in this design..
Analog Circuit Design :: 21.08.2007 02:02 :: rampat :: Replies: 3 :: Views: 2644
I have several questions concerning the attached opamp structure.
1. What is function of M14, is it source follower ? how does it work ?
2. What is the function of Mp and Mn, common gate ? how does it work ?
3. Does the M16 and M17 form the class AB structure ?
4. What is advantage of this opamp ?
5. Is it a LDO circuit ?
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 29.08.2007 11:20 :: taofeng :: Replies: 3 :: Views: 792
Thanks for your comment. Do you think that it is neccesary to bias all opamp with Bangap current?
What do you think of PTAT biasing? It seems to be compensating for input gm variation across temperature.
biasing 1, 2 and 3 are more commonly use for biasing. Which one do you think is better? Why?
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 06.09.2007 19:53 :: Ipanema :: Replies: 10 :: Views: 1544
How does the bandwidth of opamp depend on biasing current ?
Analog Circuit Design :: 08.10.2007 02:02 :: shobhit :: Replies: 12 :: Views: 1488
to bias the tail current of the opamp, bias with which one as below is better
1. Ptat current
2. Constant current
Analog Circuit Design :: 19.11.2007 02:55 :: surianova :: Replies: 5 :: Views: 732
How can to reduce offset in input terminal of opamp ?
Layout? or circuit?
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 28.11.2007 00:06 :: neter :: Replies: 8 :: Views: 1425
I am looking for a circuit that can generate the bias voltage for the opamp that I have far that circuits I have looked at are either supply or temperature there any circuit out there that does not use diode and can generate the bias voltage for opamp?
Analog Circuit Design :: 14.12.2007 05:35 :: firsttimedesigning :: Replies: 4 :: Views: 1030
I am trying to design a fully differential cascode opamp with common mode feedback. I have read Razavi, Holberg and Johns and I have a schematic but I can not find anywhere how to decide the values of the biasvoltages. Can anyone tell me where to find information about the values of the biasvoltages.
Analog Circuit Design :: 18.02.2008 13:43 :: AnnaA :: Replies: 5 :: Views: 1640
An opamp's input must be biased at half of its total power supply voltage for the highest symmetrical output swing.
biasing an opamp has nothing to do with its voltage gain.
Its voltage gain is the ratio of its negative feedback resistor to the other resistor (the input resistor if the opamp circuit is inverting or the (...)
Electronic Elementary Questions :: 19.05.2008 22:33 :: Audioguru :: Replies: 8 :: Views: 650
if you are trying to maintain the voltage constant then ideally you are operating in DC... i dont think you would have worry about these things...
btw what opamp are you using and what circuit and application r u tryin which requires an opamp for biasing???
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 19.09.2008 00:12 :: A.Anand Srinivasan :: Replies: 19 :: Views: 1393
I'm looking for papers about 1V fully diff- OTA
I tried, but many of them has bulk diven input
(I can't use bulk driven method)
Can differential Folded cascode amp work?
If u have some good papers or materials, plz help me~
gain : above 50dB
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 27.09.2008 09:13 :: kim wan :: Replies: 7 :: Views: 1536
1.Design an operational amplifier circuit for a signal conditioning application,where the signal of a microphone is conditioned for an AD-converter.
-Microphone signal peak-to-peak value is 122mv.
-Microphone signal has zero-bias, i.e it varies equally on both sides of zero
-Microphone output impedance is 600 Ohms
-AD-converter has 0 V to 2.5 V
Electronic Elementary Questions :: 10.11.2008 11:03 :: lovechild :: Replies: 0 :: Views: 557
I m studying basic filter circuit.Was given a task to modify a passive bandpass filter to an active op amp bandpass filter,the passive filter spec is given below:
Low pass filter - R(68 ohm), C(0.047u F) , fc=49.8kHz
High pass filter - R(3.3k ohm), c(0.047u F) , fc=1.03kHz
anyone can teach me how to convert it ?Thx.
Electronic Elementary Questions :: 29.12.2008 10:42 :: LvW :: Replies: 25 :: Views: 5377
on page 155, figure 5.3.18 in Huijsing's opamp theory and design,
He said, for this general-amplification feedforward biased class-AB output stage,
1. "Q3, Q5, Q4, Q6 form a positive coupling loop with a current gain of slightly lower than1, which keeps this loop stable."
I think this is a current loop, but I don't how
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 15.02.2009 20:37 :: ethan :: Replies: 2 :: Views: 2586
Hi there, guys ! I have to make this noise analysis for a low-noise opamp. From where could I get the following:
- the flicker noise coefficients KF for the NMOS and the PMOS;
- gamma - the bulk transconductance parameter;
- the surface potential at strong inversion;
all of this for the gpdk .180nm technology ?
Thanks in advance.
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 16.03.2009 14:50 :: _SquiD_ :: Replies: 4 :: Views: 992
I have a question about SC CMFB. Is it possible that after the CMFB settles to its desired voltages, one can use the opamp without using the CMFB. Like the case in an algorithmic ADC, where opamp is used in few clock continuously without the CMFB being used.
Analog Circuit Design :: 14.04.2009 22:56 :: Usman Hai :: Replies: 4 :: Views: 871
I successfully completed the classic 2 stage opamp design with Miller compensation, and am looking at advanced Op Amp designs.
I started with Folded Cascode opamp design and am in a confusion not knowing where to start. I went through Johns Martin, and Jacob Baker's books. Both seem totally different in the way Folded Cascode Op Amps are handled
Analog Circuit Design :: 30.04.2009 18:42 :: analog_fever :: Replies: 8 :: Views: 3390
I have a question in biasing an opamp. I only have +3volts supply on my circuit.
The opamp i am using requires +3volts and -3volts. So, do i need to generate -3volts supply for biasing? If i use 0volts instead of -3volts then my simulation is incorrect.
What is the bestway to fix this problem. Is there a fix (...)
Analog Circuit Design :: 01.06.2009 17:41 :: awan :: Replies: 5 :: Views: 852
I am designing an application specific CMOS op-amp which has very stringent requirements.
I am starting with a basic 2-stage topology
Some of the requirements would be :
1. Unity gain Bandwidth > 500MHz (Also in feedback my opamp needs to have a 3dB Bandwidth of > 25MHz)
2. High gain >75dB
3. Another very important requirement of my de
Analog Circuit Design :: 08.06.2009 14:25 :: carporsche :: Replies: 2 :: Views: 1598
I want to run dc analysis of an opamp, should the cmfb circuit be included?
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 26.11.2009 10:42 :: liqiyue :: Replies: 4 :: Views: 929
Hi all and good day!
I have question regarding correct biasing of opamp input pins. I am studying desing of fully differential opamp and have misunderstanding of correct biasing procedure. As I understand from books opamp is self powered and biased element so it not need biasing at normal (...)
Analog Circuit Design :: 28.12.2009 14:16 :: alexs :: Replies: 11 :: Views: 1225
I'm simulating intrinsic gain of a mos fet using ckt suggested in berkeley ee240 course. (ckt in the attachment)
But I don't understand why using opamp here (vcvs in spice) could set the bias voltage correct..Similar bias ckt is used in another cs amplifier example (also attached).
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 04.06.2010 11:55 :: jszair :: Replies: 2 :: Views: 472
In typical two-stage opamp, second stage is usually a common source gain stage with current mirror load, like in miller opamp. How to actually bias this stage? Since it is essentially an inverter, the dc operating point of output node is very unstable and either nmos or pmos could easily goes into linear region and kill the gain...
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 24.06.2010 18:53 :: jszair :: Replies: 1 :: Views: 867
when designing the op in bandgap reference, how large the load capacitance should we consider? (generally)
i have designed a two-stage opamp with following specs that meant to be used as an error amplifier in a buck converter:
DC Gain: 78db
Phase Margin: 85 degrees
compensation capacitor: 3
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 01.08.2010 09:07 :: bluemotion :: Replies: 3 :: Views: 616
I AM DESIGNING FOLDED CASCODE opamp FOR SWITCHED CAPACITOR APPLICATIONS
I AM FACING FOLLOWING PROBLEMS
1) biasing THE PMOS M18 AND M10 WHAT SHOULD BE THE CIRCUTARY FOR biasing IT OR WAT I HAV DON IS CORRECT THE CASE FOR NMOS M23 ,M24 TOO ( CHECK ATTACHMENT FOR PIC OF DESIGN )
2) NO PMOS OF CASCODE BRAN
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 08.08.2010 02:10 :: ASHUTOSH RANE :: Replies: 2 :: Views: 1108
Why do we insert a large cap on the input and a large inductor in the feedback when performing an AC analysis on an opamp?
Analog Circuit Design :: 22.03.2011 05:06 :: tobben24 :: Replies: 2 :: Views: 539
I was searching the net for this topic but it's hard to find...
I have a sine signal obtained by an active opamp filter from a square wave.
This opamp has single supply, and so the reference for input and output signals is Vcc/2.
But if I have to add a second amplifier stage (another opamp), how can I connect it to the output (...)
Electronic Elementary Questions :: 30.04.2011 11:41 :: vaka85 :: Replies: 16 :: Views: 1688
Do you mean just a capacitor is connected to the IN+ of an opamp?... If so I wonder if the amplifier can work linearly and be stable, unless that capacitor is lossy so it also provides a DC path.
Analog Circuit Design :: 06.06.2011 01:31 :: KerimF :: Replies: 4 :: Views: 378
how do i generate Vbn Vbp Vcascn Vcascp Vbcm??? if opamp is fully differential....
look up bias generators and high-swing cascode mirror bias
this link is a good start, then you need a second branch of mirrors to bias the other
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 11.08.2011 11:11 :: dgnani :: Replies: 4 :: Views: 1245
The very old 741 (43 years old) opamp usually has a positive supply and a negative supply. Then when its input is at 0V it has plenty of bias voltage. The input can swing positive or negative a little.
Analog Circuit Design :: 22.12.2011 22:26 :: Audioguru :: Replies: 3 :: Views: 517