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I am trying to measure the output impedance of an opamp in the attached configuration. Results are attached.
Basically, Zo = Vo/Io = 10mV/40mA = 0.25 Ohms.
Without the capacitor in the circuit, I get mostly a large dc current. Is there a better method to measure output impedance? I would like to (...)
Analog Circuit Design :: 11-08-2012 22:23 :: Githin :: Replies: 2 :: Views: 648
opamps DO NOT HAVE a single-ended collector output in class-A. Their output is produced by very low output impedance complementary emitter-followers in class-AB.
Analog Circuit Design :: 11-20-2013 09:57 :: Audioguru :: Replies: 8 :: Views: 316
To get a low output impedence (need when drive resistive load), you can use opamp as a buffer, prefer use rail to rail opamp because r2r output can go to
very low voltage.
If your output driving capacitive load, high output impedence has no problem
to drive, for example gate of (...)
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 06-27-2005 23:28 :: surianova :: Replies: 9 :: Views: 1908
I think aryajur's reply hit your point. You can find simulation of opamp in Allen's book, second edition section 6.6.
BTW:you said your supply is 500mV, quit low. What process do you use?
Analog Circuit Design :: 10-29-2005 13:35 :: Alles Gute :: Replies: 12 :: Views: 1826
can you give me some papers about simulation of input/output impedance of opamp both open loop and closed loop. thanks
To measure output impedance, regardless closed loop or open loop, u just put ideal current source Idc with ac=1 at the output, then measure the voltage at the (...)
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 07-27-2007 06:54 :: surianova :: Replies: 17 :: Views: 10255
Would some one help me to figure out the formula of the output impedance of a class-AB opamp? I attached the schematic of the opamp.
My purpose is to reduce the output impedance of the opamp to about 5 KOhm (currently, it is 28 KOhm).
Analog Circuit Design :: 11-03-2009 01:08 :: rficdesigner :: Replies: 0 :: Views: 972
Hi all, what we have learnt is that the output impedance of an opamp is very small.
I cannot seem the find this information in the datasheet of the opamp I am looking at.
May I know how can I measure the output impedance of an opamp using only spice?
Electronic Elementary Questions :: 10-07-2012 06:41 :: countmybones :: Replies: 4 :: Views: 723
what's the output impendence do you preferring? a R-R opamp plus push-pull MOSFET pair is an option.
Analog Circuit Design :: 03-15-2005 01:39 :: ezpcb :: Replies: 5 :: Views: 985
How to simulate the output impedance?
Analog Circuit Design :: 01-11-2007 01:05 :: incol :: Replies: 11 :: Views: 2913
supposing your amplifier has a one dominant pole, you can plot the Bode's diagram of the opamp gain and then calculate:
where Aol is the DC gain you can read from the Bode's plot
and Gm is the global transconductance of the opamp (which value also depends on with how many stages the opamp is built
Analog Circuit Design :: 01-10-2008 11:18 :: crystalballs :: Replies: 4 :: Views: 3141
XF is very usefull for CMRR and PSRR characterization.
output impedance u are able to easy obtain using AC analysis. Just put AC voltage source (e.g. 1V) with 0V DC in series with output of amplifier.
Measure AC voltage at ouput and Ac current flow though output:
P.S. Generally when you simulate (...)
Analog Circuit Design :: 03-07-2008 00:18 :: DenisMark :: Replies: 1 :: Views: 2032
... It should deliver as much power as possible to a 20 ohm load. Therefore, I am trying to make the output impedance as near to 20 ohm as possible.
No, to achieve this, Rout ≪ 20Ω !
Thus, obviously I should use a common drain MOSFET. However, the problem is output impedance of a common drain mos
Analog Circuit Design :: 02-14-2010 07:31 :: erikl :: Replies: 7 :: Views: 2809
If you neeed output resistance to be exactly 50Ω, I would recomend you to use an opamp voltage follover and attach a 50Ω resistor to it.
With your circuit, you have to know the output resistance before you can alter it by adding a resistor to it.
I'm sorry to say I can't calculate the current output (...)
Electronic Elementary Questions :: 04-17-2010 10:13 :: Prototyp_V1.0 :: Replies: 6 :: Views: 2054
Why is that the output impedance of the OTA is ideally very high? I thought we need a high output current but why is it that the ideal output impedance is very high? Can you please explain it to me?
In contrast to the well known opamp (which is a voltage source) the OTA shall act as a (...)
Electronic Elementary Questions :: 04-11-2012 08:11 :: LvW :: Replies: 2 :: Views: 467
two additional remarks:
What do you mean
* with "ideal amp"? Transistor, opamp, OTA?
* with Rout? (The term Rout in your formula primarily consists of the load resistance and - in most cases - is not the output resistance of the amplifier itself).
Analog Circuit Design :: 06-22-2012 06:02 :: LvW :: Replies: 4 :: Views: 285
A common gate amplifier is very different from an opamp or a common source amplifier.
Analog Circuit Design :: 11-15-2013 07:54 :: Audioguru :: Replies: 10 :: Views: 460
why the LNA in o.18um,in the different processor TT,SS,FF,the output impedance changed very much the TT Z=35-j*41
in the SS Z=60-j*62;and in the FF,Z=7-j*7
who can tell me why ,my LNA is cascode instructure .
RF, Microwave, Antennas and Optics :: 01-02-2004 03:29 :: sjyatou :: Replies: 9 :: Views: 1724
How to measure the output impedance of closed loop system in the
simulink? Such as two-loop system controlled by digital controllers.
Embedded Systems and Real-Time OS :: 05-12-2004 02:13 :: haulm :: Replies: 2 :: Views: 1488
Is there anybody who already designed a PA that should drive a SAW filter ? Should we provide a particular output impedance to the SAW to
reduce VSWR ?
Lots of design papers says that you should transform the load to the optimum load to have best efficiency. Suppose I have a 50Ohm SAW
filter that is terminated with a 50 Ohms impedanc
RF, Microwave, Antennas and Optics :: 06-18-2004 02:56 :: CTT :: Replies: 1 :: Views: 634
I am designing a LC-VCO,would you give me any advice on the following questions:
(1)How to calculate the output impedance of LV-VCO? Because I should do the impedance matching when measurement.
(2)I ever saw that the buffer and Bias-T are added into the LC-VCO for measure on IEEE papers.What the role of the buffer and Bias-T?
RF, Microwave, Antennas and Optics :: 07-27-2004 04:41 :: trashbox :: Replies: 2 :: Views: 1355
How could I get only positive pulses at opamp output? I mean Look at the picture attached. Supply of opamp are: +5V and -0 gnd.
At input V+ is sinus 18*sin(2pi*50*t) and at V- is DC 10V. I want positive output of opamp only when positive sinus i greater than 10VDC.
Electronic Elementary Questions :: 10-14-2004 13:43 :: epp :: Replies: 5 :: Views: 1477
for example: op ,buffer,....
Analog Circuit Design :: 10-24-2004 08:05 :: hawkin :: Replies: 5 :: Views: 6247
The circuit is the simple differential amplifier where the output is taken differentially as Vout1-Vout2 and the input is given differentially Vin1-Vin2. What is the output impedance across the output. Is it ro||Rd or is it 2*ro||RD ?? And why.
Analog Circuit Design :: 11-07-2004 00:01 :: aryajur :: Replies: 17 :: Views: 1700
I got some question about opamp output stage.
Is it necessary to have large current in the output stage?
Should i add a miller compensation cap between input stage and output stage?
just as in two-stage opamp?
3. The main purpose of the output stage is provide low (...)
Analog Circuit Design :: 04-03-2005 11:26 :: Lantis :: Replies: 2 :: Views: 781
I have the output of my audio amplifier with 4 to 8 ohm output impedance which can give 350mW of power to 8 ohm speaker. I want to make it 600 with 350mW of power, how to do it?
What is the meaning of 600/600 matching transformer?
Waiting for your encouraging reply,
Service Manuals, Requests, Repair Tips :: 04-04-2005 03:41 :: bakhat :: Replies: 5 :: Views: 1016
How to calculate the output impedance of amp with feedback when I want to calculate the openloop gain,thank you.
Analog Circuit Design :: 05-18-2005 07:16 :: xiexi :: Replies: 3 :: Views: 4785
How can I find output impedance in Cadence? ( I mean the whole circuit's o/p impedance and not transistors' ro)
I have to use one of the periodic analysis types because my circuit is driven. Is there something quick to do that?
Or would I need to add a port at the o/p, and use PSP analysis?
Thanks in advance
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 06-16-2005 14:20 :: elbadry :: Replies: 3 :: Views: 3237
From the attachment, is it the right way to measure the output impedance of a hardware circuit? Rs is the output impedance of a discret circuit. The Out will connect to V1 and get the Out voltage and after that
the Out again connect to V2 and get the Out voltage. And after these 2 measurement, solve the equatioin to get out (...)
Analog Circuit Design :: 07-25-2005 03:29 :: surianova :: Replies: 0 :: Views: 690
Does anyone know why LVPECL interface do not care its output impedance 50 ohm to match 50 ohm transmission line?
Analog Circuit Design :: 08-08-2005 05:45 :: surianova :: Replies: 0 :: Views: 619
How do I find output impedance in my current source?
I use hspice. Thanks.
Analog Circuit Design :: 10-04-2005 03:33 :: ilter :: Replies: 6 :: Views: 2816
Hello there ,
I am wondering why we are used to shorting the input terminal while finding out the output impedance of any ckt . Based on two port networks Z?? is defined like that ,ok.Then tell me how it yields good results even if we use the same op resistance(for which we shorted ip and found the impedance) while (...)
Analog Circuit Design :: 01-10-2006 04:24 :: venkateshr :: Replies: 0 :: Views: 449
the balun model in spectre (verilog-a) has an unbalanced input impedance of 50 Ohm and a balanced/differential output impedance of 50 Ohm. these impedance values can be varied. to my knowledge, if the diffrential output impedance is 50 Ohm, each output has an (...)
Analog Circuit Design :: 02-23-2006 12:55 :: estradasphere :: Replies: 0 :: Views: 1066
I have vector network analyzer, which can measure input impedance.
I just put device on port 1, and measure the S11, then can get Zin from S11.
For there is no output power from the device in port, and the measured power is just the reflect power, which is a portion of port1 output from the analyzer.
But some device can out (...)
RF, Microwave, Antennas and Optics :: 03-18-2006 00:33 :: yellowtooth :: Replies: 12 :: Views: 3653
Do you have any practical experiences on how to measure power supply output impedance? Say, to identify its output impedance <0.01Ohm@DC and 0.05Ohm@1MHz.
Any comments or hints are welcome.
Electronic Elementary Questions :: 03-19-2006 08:37 :: bittware :: Replies: 2 :: Views: 4248
Why the current consumption varies with output impedance when
using collector-voltage control (ex: RFMD3146) power amplifier ?
Is it a common phenomenon in PA design ? Thanks.
RF, Microwave, Antennas and Optics :: 06-27-2006 07:47 :: passerby :: Replies: 1 :: Views: 542
Regarding PA, different output power level resulted in different output impedance.
Is this because of DC bias change so that it changes the characteristics of PA ?
RF, Microwave, Antennas and Optics :: 06-30-2006 06:01 :: passerby :: Replies: 4 :: Views: 790
Infinite input impedance means that the opamp draws no current, which means that all of the current goes to the load.
Zero output impedance means that there is no voltage drop within the opamp, which means that all of your signal is delivered to the load.
Hope this helps
Electronic Elementary Questions :: 11-04-2006 21:10 :: beardo41186 :: Replies: 12 :: Views: 9480
in general you want to have high input impedance and low output impedance.
this type of circuit is more immune to changes in the load.
opamp was designed with this goal in mind.
Electronic Elementary Questions :: 09-28-2006 11:20 :: narfnarf :: Replies: 6 :: Views: 985
the efficiency of any amplifier depends on the input and output impedances, so your design goal to achieve a very high input impedance and a very low output impedance , the ideal opamp has infinity input impedance and zero output impedance (...)
Electronic Elementary Questions :: 11-11-2006 07:15 :: Hazem.Hijazeen :: Replies: 9 :: Views: 1218
When I do not connect any load resistance Rd, what is the output impedance of the cascode BJT in terms of gm,ro,r π (pi)?
Analog Circuit Design :: 11-17-2006 13:25 :: tshankar501 :: Replies: 4 :: Views: 2037
Last time i asked about input/output impedance formula with reference to one circuit from a boook. I got good info at my post .
But now i found another wideband circuit of similar type from
I am herewith posting pages
RF, Microwave, Antennas and Optics :: 01-24-2007 10:14 :: jaya000 :: Replies: 5 :: Views: 4600
Is there any easy method or software to find input output impedance of transistor at RF frequencies with help of S parameters?
RF, Microwave, Antennas and Optics :: 02-01-2007 06:15 :: jaya000 :: Replies: 3 :: Views: 2164
What is meant by output impedance and what is its importance
i know what is meant by input impedance and that it should be large for amplifiers
but what is the importance of output impedance in amplifiers
should it be large or small
Electronic Elementary Questions :: 03-28-2007 10:12 :: elec-eng :: Replies: 4 :: Views: 1600
Would like to know what is the implication(advantage or disadvantage) of having high input impedance or low input impedance in a circuit.
What about high/low output impedance?
Electronic Elementary Questions :: 04-22-2007 06:13 :: watertreader :: Replies: 11 :: Views: 4363
I know some guy suggested to use statement, what if i just want to see the the change of ro with respect to the change of other quantities, say, output voltage. how could i write my spice commmand..
Analog IC Design and Layout :: 05-04-2007 00:50 :: Julian18 :: Replies: 12 :: Views: 2818
I am trying to make an audio amplifier using the lm741 op amp, and I want to measure its output impedance , so that I can attach a speaker of matching impedance,
this way I think, I will be transferring more power,,
but how do I measure the output impedance of my circuit,
also are there any (...)
Electronic Elementary Questions :: 07-11-2007 09:57 :: mehboob_iiui :: Replies: 1 :: Views: 751
I've got a receiver which mixes down a 1GHz signal to ≈ 100kHz. The receiver has two outputs (differentially, 180° phase shift) which both have an output impedance of 65Ω. In the datasheet of the receiver it says "The loading resistance on each output (single-ended) should be larger than 300Ω to assure (...)
Electronic Elementary Questions :: 10-09-2007 04:25 :: arefeidi :: Replies: 2 :: Views: 636
Dear All :
I design a LNA now , the band is 70M ~ 120M , I usae spectre do simulation.
I Run SP , PSS+ Pnoise. I have some question about the simulation. I use Vport or Vsource fot input / ouput. My question is input is 50 ohm. How to define the ouput impedance ? The Next stage is Mixer. I read some document , it apply ouput impedance is 50 oh
RF, Microwave, Antennas and Optics :: 01-03-2008 08:44 :: mitgrace :: Replies: 3 :: Views: 1185
i built a small fm transmitter.pls tell me how to measure the output impedance of the oscillator stage inorder to match the antenna.
RF, Microwave, Antennas and Optics :: 01-19-2008 06:53 :: deepak007 :: Replies: 1 :: Views: 669
hi i need to measure output impedance of a circuit as a function of frquency,
can anybody tell me just how to do it.... or can i get some good user guide of
thanx in advance...
Analog Circuit Design :: 01-25-2008 08:34 :: akhilrathore :: Replies: 1 :: Views: 1127